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Thank you so much for posting this, Clinton! This is an absolutely wonderful comment, and just the sort of thing that I would like to see more of around here. It’s interesting that you would get copies that had been censored due to the likes and dislikes of your friends – – that happened to me as well, so there were certain albums that I didn’t know in their entire entirety until I started buying copies for myself!

That’s really awesome that you’re going through. All those shows! I of course have been working my way through them over the years, I’ve probably heard basically all of them, but I’ve never attempted to go through in order.

I knew people that were very excited about the prospect of Mark and Howard coming back to the band for the 1988 tour. Rob Ceretta was one. But Walter, who I mentioned in the piece, was far more excited when he heard the Fowler brothers were coming back to the band! Would have been very interesting to see some of that 1970/1971 comedic synergy popping again!

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That was beautifully written Scott. In my early years of Zappa fandom when I was reliant on birthday money or Christmas to buy the tapes/CDs I was also reliant on friends taping albums. (They'd end up censored because said friends would look down on tracks like The Planet of My Dreams and A Little Green Rosetta. I even had a friend who removed With A Little Help From My Friends and Lovely Rita from Sgt Pepper and rumour had it if you wanted American Beauty on tape you had to have it without Operator because he said it was shit.) In one case an art tutor from college gave me a C90 of Fillmore East June 1971 and Overnite Sensation (with extracts from Luck My Decals Off Baby to fill up the tape). He was in a panic when he handed over the tape begging me not to tell my parents a tutor gave me that tape.

I have been attempting to listen to all the concerts on the Frank Zappa Life On The Road YouTube channel and I'm still in 1970. Listening to the pre UCLA gig 1970s Mothers sounds interesting because they sound like the Flo and Eddie band without Flo and Eddie. I would recommend the 1970 Bath Festival recording because the taper kept recording long enough to include Donovan which gives the atmosphere that the festival was more akin to those family friendly festivals that fellow Zappa fan Adam Buxton sang about https://youtu.be/eBZ8nng-1-g?si=50v8fd03aKSSiD5y

Most people I know who have seen Frank Zappa live saw him with Mark and Howard. Lucky people.

What would the 1988 tour sounded like with Flo and Eddie? Imagine Mark, Howard, Ray and Ike doing four part harmonies! Would the Thing-Fish make a guest appearance in Do You Like My New Car? Eventually the Broadway The Hard Way did have a past Mothers connection in the guise of Bruce and Walt Fowler from the Roxy and Elsewhere era Mothers.

Rest in peace Mark. Love and sympathy Howard.

Thank you gentlemen xx

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